Croydon Trans Group

The History of Croydon Trans Group

A personal note by Helen Doe

Before 2000

Friends of the Firebird logoSandra started a group called Friends of the Firebird. It got its name from Sandra's own nickname. They had their meetings in the George public house in Isleworth.

Around 2000

The Goose and CarrotSandra visited Croydon and met Rachel, and they started a new group called Westside Girls, so called because it was set up near West Croydon bus station.

They met once a month at The Goose and Carrot, a gay pub (now demolished) which stood in the middle of the junction of Wellesley Road and St James's Road, Croydon. The social and support group was for TV/TS and transgender (M2F and F2M) and welcomed everyone. Around 37 members attended the group and had informal social meetings, including Christmas dinners and picnics in Hyde Park. They saw shows, went to the cinema and birthday parties.

2002

The Bird in HandThis was the birth of the Croydon Trans Group which we know today. It met for a long time at the Bird in Hand, the gay pub in Sydenham Road, Croydon, on the second Saturday of every month.

2003

The Trans Group and Sandra helped form Aurora, the LGBT Police Focus Group, and developed the "Which Loo?" document. Three years later the police approved the document which was a big breakthrough. It was the first such document that the police adopted on transsexual people.

More about the "Which Loo" document...

12th May 2008

The Trans Group, together with the Gemini support group and other LGBT groups in Croydon, helped launch Crocus. Christina took part, representing the Trans Group. Sadly Sandra moved on to live in Ealing.

More about Crocus...

Around 2009

By this time, Rachel was running the group on her own, but she became ill, and her health problems were getting worse. Ruth and Marylin took on some of the responsibility for the group, but Rachel was still in charge.

This was when I  started to come to the group. I was a nervous wreck. But Rachel, in spite of all her problems, took me in her care and made me the person I am today. Also Rachel got her Gender Recognition Certificate after fifteen years!

Early 2010

It was not a good start to the year as my mother died, but Rachel was there for me – and Debbie too.

And in February, which is LGBT History Month, we celebrated Roberta Cowell, the UK's first post-op trans person, and a fighter pilot in world war two. We gave a copy of her book, The Roberta Cowell Story, to Croydon Library, where you can read it today.

More about Roberta Cowell, with pictures of our celebration...

March 2010

A sad time. By this time Ruth had moved on; Marylin moved on a little later. By this time I was full-time trans myself, and had some work trouble. Rachel helped me through this but she was finding it hard to run the group because of ill health. Rachel is my number one trans. She is fighting on and we all support her.

October 2010

Rachel handed the Croydon Trans Group over to me, but I still rely on her expertise. So I got the job, but Rachel is going to be a hard act to follow. I promise to do my best for you all, but I need your support for the future for the group. I've made some small changes, and given the job a title – Croydon Trans Representative – I am there to represent you.

Thank you for your support.

July 2011

We were sad to hear that the Fountain pub in Handcross, previously very  trans friendly, is now closed and boarded up - see   www.peasepottage.info/fountain-pub/.

Helen Susan Doe